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n141311
07-15-2008, 09:45 AM
Hey Guys,

A couple of days ago, I noted that there was a thread posted about Muslims and why they blow themselves / others up.- I can't quite remember the exact content now or the location of the thread although I believe it is still floating around on the site somewhere.

Anyway, the point of this thread is to raise a question. A question for those who found humour in the original thread, who believed there might be a lining of truth in it, or who were just pretty well outraged at what was written.

The question is: what exactly are your thoughts about Terrorism and Muslims? Let's keep the topic clean, intellectual, and based on the facts. As someone from Britain and who recently visited America I know that there is a clear difference in how people think and what people know about this topic in the US versus the general public in the UK. I put this difference largely down to how different our news coverage of topics is (just compare BBC News to Fox).

So, I figured this would be a good way to address any disconnect and a friendly openly spirited way.

As a primer (and also what motivated me to write this thread as a response) was watching a youtube video that challenges people to answer this very question:

Clip 1: "The equation"
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nb9275XZNE&feature=user
Clip 2: "How to break it down"
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAmJlUdjSKk&feature=user

Do watch the videos and let me know your thoughts.

Stereotypes are dangerous, and I hope that even if no one feels the need to reply to this thread, that we as a 'global community' can overcome the ignorance out there.

Also feel free to use this thread as an opportunity to ask any 'tabboo' questions about Islam / Muslim's to someone who can (try to) give you a first hand account.

Hobbyist
07-16-2008, 07:47 AM
I think the chance of war can't be simply equated to the muslim side of the equation... the main reason being that it takes 2 to have a war... so

Given:
q(Arab)=Muslin where .85 < q < .95 (from the video most arabs are muslin)
.20(Muslim) = Arab (from the video 20% of muslims are arab)
p(Muslim) = violence (where p is perhaps a fraction of a percent of muslims who advocate violence)

Then:
(B2)((B1)violence) = war (where B1 is the accelerator effect of "western" leaders trying to ram western ideologies, and beliefs in social and government "objectives" down the throats of muslims and thereby increasing radicalism, hatred and the propensity for war and where B2 is the propensity for some western leaders to think in terms of war as their primary solution to being told to F-Off when they try and ram these beliefs and idiologies down the throats of others whether they are interested or not.)

Webscout
07-16-2008, 10:45 AM
Hobbyist.

You make algebra interesting..:D

symphony
07-19-2008, 06:30 PM
hi all,
just wanted you to know that most of you are making a big big confusion between muslim and islamist (wich means extremist)
muslims are a peaceful people with a very moderate and quite life
islamists are fondamentalists, and integrists who want to rule the world under their own ideologie using charia'a (islam laws) in they own way of thinking. They have no scrubs to mix political ideas and charia'a just to be the kings of the world.

it's very sad to see someone saying: muslim = human bomb

open your minds and see the difference.

i'm muslim and i know what i'm talkin' about!
whatever you think...i just wanna let you know that i'm a normal guy, who plays some speed metal (guitar)... I like warez, do some sport,read SF books, listen to the music, have a girlfriend (but we still virgins), you know i'm just NORMAL :p
never compare with what the TV may show you, media is dangerous nowadayz ....it handles minds and distord people's perception about toooo many themes.... it gives a wrong image and idea about islam.
i don't wanna spread islam here or sumthin' like this, everybody is free to choose his own religion or to be atheist or whatever... but just want you to know that we are normal people, not the extremists that make themselves explode as their shown on TV.

respectfully yours
:)

Webscout
07-19-2008, 06:36 PM
symphony

..thanks for enlightening us.

Most of us are like you...peaceful...loving....normal people that don't want to war with anyone.